Men's Basketball Transfer Carousel and Portal - 2024-25

[steveystuds06]

Yeah the 4 guard lineup was only feasible because of the absence of Bilau and Green and needing an alternative to Brown and Fuchs on the floor at the same time.

Either way, Mr Whitmore is following all these big guys. Perhaps someone is visiting this weekend?

They definitely have some players visiting. Even though it may seem like it because of how quiet it is they’re obviously recruiting players.

Aside from trying to land a rim protector, I hope we put a full court press on getting Eli Wilborn.
He is a front court player that can develop with us and possibly build around.
Him being from close-by in Ct should help.

I've been working nonstop in May, so I have no idea what's been going on. Are we actually in the mix with Wilborn? That kid is going to be a stud, and I assumed he would be going to a high major. If we can land a player of his caliber, I'll be surprised. I watched him a few times, and I remember seeing a stat that he was averaging like 14 and 8 in the conference. Great player.

[Billyboy78]

They definitely have some players visiting. Even though it may seem like it because of how quiet it is they’re obviously recruiting players.

Aside from trying to land a rim protector, I hope we put a full court press on getting Eli Wilborn.
He is a front court player that can develop with us and possibly build around.
Him being from close-by in Ct should help.

I've been working nonstop in May, so I have no idea what's been going on. Are we actually in the mix with Wilborn? That kid is going to be a stud, and I assumed he would be going to a high major. If we can land a player of his caliber, I'll be surprised. I watched him a few times, and I remember seeing a stat that he was averaging like 14 and 8 in the conference. Great player.

It looks like Austin is recruiting him, so we'll see.

[theblueram]

[reef]

Where is Eli Wilborn from ?

[Billyboy78]

Where is Eli Wilborn from ?

He played at St. Francis in PA this year, but he's from Connecticut.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Sooo.....what happened to this flurry of activity that was supposed to happen right after the portal closed?

Still waiting on an ETA

[NYGFan_Section208]

Which brings up an 'interesting', doesn't it? When the pot of gold explodes with the current or the next lawsuit, and the money starts going directly from the schools to the players, won't the amounts that Rhody players are getting be public anyway? I think if RV has more, he should be ahead of his time, because that time is coming (happens in every other pro sport) and spill. Why not?

The funny part to me though is...who the heck is making that info available to RV in the first place. Maybe that's known, but how about being the one that let him know? Maybe it was the player? If so, bet he feels like a nitwit for that? But...if the mom said nunya, then surely it couldn't have been the player, right? So, if it's not the player, or his fam, then who let the vault get the cat, er, let the cat out of the you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?

Word gets out eventually. Depends on connections. I know of one 6 figure deal which was surprisingly high to me. Non URI kid.

and in every other pro sport, 'everyone' knows...it will soon be the same with this, won't it? It's interesting that there was this (rightful) battle to get paid, which was won, and now, how much we're getting paid is nobody's business. I don't see the "nobody's business' + collectives" model having a long shelf life.

[ramster]

Which brings up an 'interesting', doesn't it? When the pot of gold explodes with the current or the next lawsuit, and the money starts going directly from the schools to the players, won't the amounts that Rhody players are getting be public anyway? I think if RV has more, he should be ahead of his time, because that time is coming (happens in every other pro sport) and spill. Why not?

The funny part to me though is...who the heck is making that info available to RV in the first place. Maybe that's known, but how about being the one that let him know? Maybe it was the player? If so, bet he feels like a nitwit for that? But...if the mom said nunya, then surely it couldn't have been the player, right? So, if it's not the player, or his fam, then who let the vault get the cat, er, let the cat out of the you know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯?

Word gets out eventually. Depends on connections. I know of one 6 figure deal which was surprisingly high to me. Non URI kid.

and in every other pro sport, 'everyone' knows...it will soon be the same with this, won't it? It's interesting that there was this (rightful) battle to get paid, which was won, and now, how much we're getting paid is nobody's business. I don't see the "nobody's business' + collectives" model having a long shelf life.

Seems reasonable that this salary info will become public

The more public it becomes the more questions will be asked about why this pay or compensation is not taxed.

The pay for play numbers are going to grow much bigger as:
- the gambling rage grows faster and faster
- the media money the schools have been hoarding gets pulled away by the players and their agents
- bidding on players becomes more sophisticated and widespread
- players, agents and media share what players are getting offered
- more money has to be raised to pay for payroll taxes

[ramster]

Nate Santos does the Portal and Portal Return back

[bigappleram]

Word gets out eventually. Depends on connections. I know of one 6 figure deal which was surprisingly high to me. Non URI kid.

and in every other pro sport, 'everyone' knows...it will soon be the same with this, won't it? It's interesting that there was this (rightful) battle to get paid, which was won, and now, how much we're getting paid is nobody's business. I don't see the "nobody's business' + collectives" model having a long shelf life.

Seems reasonable that this salary info will become public

The more public it becomes the more questions will be asked about why this pay or compensation is not taxed.

The pay for play numbers are going to grow much bigger as:
- the gambling rage grows faster and faster
- the media money the schools have been hoarding gets pulled away by the players and their agents
- bidding on players becomes more sophisticated and widespread
- players, agents and media share what players are getting offered
- more money has to be raised to pay for payroll taxes

Why do you keep saying it won’t be taxed. Of course it’s taxed.

[Jdrums#3]

Good job raising gambling, Ramster. I am not up on gamblings role in all this on a legitimate level as an industry.

I wonder what, if any, role big money gambling casino’s play in all this ?

Are casino’s banned from paying players for attending casino events, etc. ?

Are UNLV players raking it in from the strip ? Does Mohegan or Foxwoods pay any UConn players to do events for them ?

Anyone here know if it’s allowed or not ?

[ramster]

and in every other pro sport, 'everyone' knows...it will soon be the same with this, won't it? It's interesting that there was this (rightful) battle to get paid, which was won, and now, how much we're getting paid is nobody's business. I don't see the "nobody's business' + collectives" model having a long shelf life.

Seems reasonable that this salary info will become public

The more public it becomes the more questions will be asked about why this pay or compensation is not taxed.

The pay for play numbers are going to grow much bigger as:
- the gambling rage grows faster and faster
- the media money the schools have been hoarding gets pulled away by the players and their agents
- bidding on players becomes more sophisticated and widespread
- players, agents and media share what players are getting offered
- more money has to be raised to pay for payroll taxes

Why do you keep saying it won’t be taxed. Of course it’s taxed.

Well for one thing you are the very first person to say it is taxed.
Guess athletes were better off when it was under the table

Pretty complicated in reading the tax implications that I just reviewed.

So people like us contribute income that has already been taxed and then the players have to pay taxes on the after tax income we just contributed.

Janet Yellen double dipping and here I was thinking she was missing an opportunity.

All the more reason why the player salaries should come from the Non-Profit University Media Contract Deals with ESPN, Fox, CBS, etc.

https://www.investopedia.com/nil-deals- ... ns-8599929

[Jdrums#3]

Speaking of taxes…

We should start our own government. The Republic of Keaney Blue. Preferably someplace warm and offshore so we can launder….err, I mean subsidize Rhody basketball through a foreign aid package.

Uncle Frank ?

[ramster]

Just seems odd to me JDrums that a non-profit can pay players to play, reap the monetary benefits from the teams performance, and not gave to pay taxes on the money taken in from the basketball and football programs.
But the athletes themselves have to pay taxes on the income.

Oh well.

“Fair share”?

[Ramfan22]

Bent Leutchen withdrew from the portal and is returning to UC Irvine. One 7 footer off the board.

James Whitford was following him on twitter, but Mizzou was the heavy front runner. Good for UC Irvine getting their center back though.

[PeterRamTime]

Bent Leutchen withdrew from the portal and is returning to UC Irvine. One 7 footer off the board.

James Whitford was following him on twitter, but Mizzou was the heavy front runner. Good for UC Irvine getting their center back though.

Yeah I respect his decision.

Paging Zappala

[McRam]

Speaking of taxes…

We should start our own government. The Republic of Keaney Blue. Preferably someplace warm and offshore so we can launder….err, I mean subsidize Rhody basketball through a foreign aid package.

Uncle Frank ?

That is the solution- since we will be able to print our own money we will be able to pay big time for the premium athletes. What a great idea Drums.

[Jdrums#3]

Just seems odd to me JDrums that a non-profit can pay players to play, reap the monetary benefits from the teams performance, and not gave to pay taxes on the money taken in from the basketball and football programs.
But the athletes themselves have to pay taxes on the income.

Oh well.

“Fair share”?

Ramster, I think one of the posters here brought up before what I will post below in the first paragraph below. To paraphrase…

The way college sports is going, at some point in the future schools may have to spin off football and basketball to avoid jeopardizing their non-profit status. Perhaps an upstart rival league files a suit that argues that the Power 2 are nothing but for profit sports entities disguised as nonprofit educational institutions and therefore have an unfair competitive advantage ?

I can envision this happening although, I am not a lawyer or tax expert to know if the above scenario is even possible.

Anyway, it is amazing to me that you can have schools in the SEC and Big 10, just to name two conferences, that can run for profit sports leagues and rake in 10’s of millions of dollars per year per school in 2 sports while under the guise of education (where a significant % of the players don’t go to class or have sham classes) without having to pay most of their labor force and provide other benefits for profit professional leagues must provide.

Greed run amuck. And it still isn’t enough for some of them. They want even more.

If you vote for me I will strip the P2 conferences of their guise and force them out to the open market to compete with the NFL and NBA.

Some Saturday night political humor for bored KB’ers still hanging around here

[Jersey77]

Committed to Charleston

[RhodyKyle]

Seems reasonable that this salary info will become public

The more public it becomes the more questions will be asked about why this pay or compensation is not taxed.

The pay for play numbers are going to grow much bigger as:
- the gambling rage grows faster and faster
- the media money the schools have been hoarding gets pulled away by the players and their agents
- bidding on players becomes more sophisticated and widespread
- players, agents and media share what players are getting offered
- more money has to be raised to pay for payroll taxes

Why do you keep saying it won’t be taxed. Of course it’s taxed.

Well for one thing you are the very first person to say it is taxed.
Guess athletes were better off when it was under the table

Pretty complicated in reading the tax implications that I just reviewed.

So people like us contribute income that has already been taxed and then the players have to pay taxes on the after tax income we just contributed.

Janet Yellen double dipping and here I was thinking she was missing an opportunity.

All the more reason why the player salaries should come from the Non-Profit University Media Contract Deals with ESPN, Fox, CBS, etc.

https://www.investopedia.com/nil-deals- ... ns-8599929

Have you hired someone to fix something at your house? Don't you pay them with money that was already taxed from your paycheck? This is no different. The person you pay has to claim that as income for doing the work you paid them for.

[RhodyKyle]

Speaking of taxes…

We should start our own government. The Republic of Keaney Blue. Preferably someplace warm and offshore so we can launder….err, I mean subsidize Rhody basketball through a foreign aid package.

Uncle Frank ?

That is the solution- since we will be able to print our own money we will be able to pay big time for the premium athletes. What a great idea Drums.

And almost immediately the People's Republic of Kearney Blue has entered hyperinflation.

[Jdrums#3]

RhodyKyle, this is exactly why we need a Republic of Keaney Blue State Economist.

Thanks for applying. Uncle Frank wants you. You’re hired!

[Jdrums#3]

Speaking of taxes…

We should start our own government. The Republic of Keaney Blue. Preferably someplace warm and offshore so we can launder….err, I mean subsidize Rhody basketball through a foreign aid package.

Uncle Frank ?

That is the solution- since we will be able to print our own money we will be able to pay big time for the premium athletes. What a great idea Drums.

And almost immediately the People’s Republic of Kearney Blue has entered hyperinflation.

The state name of People’s Republic of Keaney Blue doesn’t work for me, RhodyKyle.

Either we should just keep it Republic of Keaney Blue or change it to The Basketball Republic of Keaney Blue. After all, this isn’t about the people, it is about basketball.

[Billyboy78]

Committed to Charleston

Interesting that Charleston wasn't on that list, URI was and Christen Cunningham has since left URI to go to Charleston. Coincidence?

[Jdrums#3]

Quite the coincidence, 78.

How come all these other coaches changing schools, except for coaches coming to here, bring players with them ?

Coach Whit, bring us a good big to play with Fuchs.

Btw 78, I do not normally post here on KB this late.

Is this KB adult swim time ? Asking for a friend.

[Billyboy78]

Quite the coincidence, 78.

How come all these other coaches changing schools, except for coaches coming to here, bring players with them ?

Btw, I do not normally post here on KB this late.

Is this KB adult swim time ? Asking for a friend.

I was up watching that incredible ending to the Bruins game!!!

[Jdrums#3]

Damn, I was posting here and watching a movie with the Mrs and forgot all about the Bruins after checking in during the 1st period.

[Billyboy78]

Damn, I was posting here and watching a movie with the Mrs and forgot all about the Bruins after checking in during the 1st period.

Game 7. Overtime. Here's the series winner.

[NYGFan_Section208]

Damn, I was posting here and watching a movie with the Mrs and forgot all about the Bruins after checking in during the 1st period.

Game 7. Overtime. Here's the series winner.

Was on too late for me, but, it was the first thing I saw this morning...awesome finish

[Billyboy78]

There goes another one.

[Jdrums#3]

Crap! He would have been a good addition. Spell Fuchs at the 5. Go with a 2 bigs lineup depending on opposition matchups.

Plenty of PT here.

What gives with these bigs ?

[Jersey77]

There goes another one.

Wow, with Conway going to the BIG, that concerns me with Wilborn.
Not sure how good our chances would be with him, hope they are putting in an all-out effort.

[steveystuds06]

As I said I don’t think we land Wilborn and he goes high major.

If Traore is the best big we can get we’re in serious trouble with our frontcourt.

[Jersey77]

As I said I don’t think we land Wilborn and he goes high major.

If Traore is the best big we can get we’re in serious trouble with our frontcourt.

Traore wouldn't be a bad addition if we can add several other pieces upfront that would be more of an impact.

[STC]

Maybe I’m misreading the portal but I’m not at all surprised we didn’t land Conway. Were we even in on him? He’s a 6’9 starter who averaged 10 and 4 for a tournament team that beat Kentucky, why the hell would he want to come here?

[PeterRamTime]

Maybe I’m misreading the portal but I’m not at all surprised we didn’t land Conway. Were we even in on him? He’s a 6’9 starter who averaged 10 and 4 for a tournament team that beat Kentucky, why the hell would he want to come here?

Same reason Jamarques Lawrence has?

10 and 4 in the horizon isn't amazing and it's not like he had that much to do with beating Kentucky.

[STC]

Maybe I’m misreading the portal but I’m not at all surprised we didn’t land Conway. Were we even in on him? He’s a 6’9 starter who averaged 10 and 4 for a tournament team that beat Kentucky, why the hell would he want to come here?

Same reason Jamarques Lawrence has?

10 and 4 in the horizon isn't amazing and it's not like he had that much to do with beating Kentucky.

6’9 starters that average 10 and 4 at the mid major level are going up in conference not moving laterally to another mid major. Even if he was to move laterally to a mid major it certainly wouldn’t be to a team with zero momentum or tournament hopes this upcoming season.

[PeterRamTime]

Maybe I’m misreading the portal but I’m not at all surprised we didn’t land Conway. Were we even in on him? He’s a 6’9 starter who averaged 10 and 4 for a tournament team that beat Kentucky, why the hell would he want to come here?

Same reason Jamarques Lawrence has?

10 and 4 in the horizon isn't amazing and it's not like he had that much to do with beating Kentucky.

6’9 starters that average 10 and 4 at the mid major level are going up in conference not moving laterally to another mid major. Even if he was to move laterally to a mid major it certainly wouldn’t be to a team with zero momentum or tournament hopes this upcoming season.

This is just another episode of *ignores Jamarques Lawrence's existence* so you can find new levels of gloom and doom

In what universe is Horizon league to Atlantic 10 a lateral move? In what universe does averaging 10 and 4 in the HORIZON LEAGUE make a player some P5 must have? Are you serious?

We don't have zero momentum, we are putting together a pretty strong roster thus far and we have decent NIL. 6'9 Horizon league big men are not out of reach for us lolol

[steveystuds06]

Maybe I’m misreading the portal but I’m not at all surprised we didn’t land Conway. Were we even in on him? He’s a 6’9 starter who averaged 10 and 4 for a tournament team that beat Kentucky, why the hell would he want to come here?

Same reason Jamarques Lawrence has?

10 and 4 in the horizon isn't amazing and it's not like he had that much to do with beating Kentucky.

6’9 starters that average 10 and 4 at the mid major level are going up in conference not moving laterally to another mid major. Even if he was to move laterally to a mid major it certainly wouldn’t be to a team with zero momentum or tournament hopes this upcoming season.

The Horizon is a much worse conference than the A10. I think the A10 was ranked 8th-9th and the Horizon is in the 20s. I don't think going to an A10 team would have been a lateral move. But it makes sense that he wants to play for a possible tournament team instead of a rebuilding team like ours.

[Jdrums#3]

Dang, it is getting late in the portal game and many teams still have needs so competition is still fierce - even for portal players who’ve already committed (see VCU).

As far as the front court,I think there are still a few JC bigs in the top 25 of the top 100 - as of a week ago, anyway.

Maybe we snag one for added front court depth and insurance in case of injury?

Maybe there’s still a chance that we add a big from overseas? Is there a cutoff date to add players from overseas?

[PeterRamTime]

Same reason Jamarques Lawrence has?

10 and 4 in the horizon isn't amazing and it's not like he had that much to do with beating Kentucky.

6’9 starters that average 10 and 4 at the mid major level are going up in conference not moving laterally to another mid major. Even if he was to move laterally to a mid major it certainly wouldn’t be to a team with zero momentum or tournament hopes this upcoming season.

The Horizon is a much worse conference than the A10. I think the A10 was ranked 8th-9th and the Horizon is in the 20s. I don't think going to an A10 team would have been a lateral move. But it makes sense that he wants to play for a possible tournament team instead of a rebuilding team like ours.

If we landed Conway people would say

"He only averaged 10 and 4 in the 20th best league in the country, we are doomed"

[Rhody15]

[PeterRamTime]

Still holding out hope for Zapala

Zapala and Wilburn and we cookin

[NYGFan_Section208]

Still holding out hope for Zapala

Zapala and Wilburn and we cookin

Pretty sure it's Montana for Zappa...something about becoming a mental toss flycoon



ETA...there is some serious guitar here...

[Billyboy78]

Still holding out hope for Zapala

Zapala and Wilburn and we cookin

Pretty sure it's Montana for Zappa...something about becoming a mental toss flycoon

Did ECR steal your identity?

[Ramfan22]

Szymon Zapala Is coming off of a visit to Wichita State wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up there

[Billyboy78]

This is just getting stupid.

[PeterRamTime]

Szymon Zapala Is coming off of a visit to Wichita State wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up there

[Jdrums#3]

$2 mil for one year?

If that tweet is accurate, 78, that is crazy. I wonder what he was paid for last season?

When will this NIL payout market find a level? It has to, right? But then, maybe not?

I guess as long as there are desperate programs and desperate collectives, it will just continue to go up and up.

It’s like the arms race of the 80’s that brought Russia to its knees. The US, being the power conference, just out spent everyone else until no country could keep up.

Like Ripley said in Aliens, let’s nuke ‘em from orbit. Somebody smack down these power conferences and bring some sanity to player movement and compensation.

[PeterRamTime]

$2 mil for one year?

If that tweet is accurate, 78, that is crazy. I wonder what he was paid for last season?

When will this NIL payout market find a level? It has to, right? But then, maybe not?

I guess as long as there are desperate programs and desperate collectives, it will just continue to go up and up.

It’s like the arms race of the 80’s that brought Russia to its knees. The US, being the power conference, just out spent everyone else until no country could keep up.

Like Ripley said in Aliens, let’s nuke ‘em from orbit. Somebody smack down these power conferences and bring some sanity to player movement and compensation.

He's not actually going to get that. They throw out ridiculous numbers all the time. It's bs.

He'll make money! It won't be 2 million though.